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Francis Collins
Former Director of the NIH
**On October 5, 2021, Dr. Collins announced that he will be leaving his post by the end of 2021. After 12 years as Director, he said he will return to his lab at the National Human Genome Research Institute within the NIH. On December 5, 2021, Lawrence Tabak became Acting Director of the NIH until President Biden nominated a new director who must be confirmed by the evenly divided Senate.”**
Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D. was appointed the 16th Director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) by President Barack Obama and was sworn in August 2009 and was asked to remain in his position by Presidents Trump and Biden.
Dr. Collins is a physician-geneticist who specializes in discovering and understanding disease genes. From 1993-2008, he was director of the National Human Genome Research Institute at NIH for the international Human Genome Project, which ran from 1990 to 2003. He is also an elected member of both the National Academy of Medicine and the National Academy of Sciences. For his research and contributions to science, Dr. Collins was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in November 2007, received the National Medal of Science in 2009 and, in 2020, was elected as a Foreign Member of the Royal Society (UK) and was also named the 50th winner of the Templeton Prize.
Dr. Collins’ position does not require Senate confirmation.
On China
Collins does not appear to have any strong views regarding China or the U.S.-China relationship. However, he has affirmed the importance of working with international bodies, such as the World Health Organization, to resolve global health issues that cross national borders: “Given the WHO is a major player in that global health arena, we’d hope to be able to continue to work with them in some productive way…obviously, as the organization is supposed to be watching over public health for the whole world, it would be odd if we didn’t work with them on shared areas of interest.”
Collins gradually made more official public commentary on his thoughts regarding the origins of Covid-19 despite the topic being repeatedly brought to his attention. Most notably, as recently as May 21, 2021, and previously on March 18, 2021, members of U.S. Congress have sent Collins a letter requesting for a “complete, independent scientific investigation into the origins of the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.” In one of Collins’ first comments on the subject during an interview with FoxNews in mid-May 2021, Collins stated:
The idea of some kind of lab accident has been out there and I would not say that the investigation that was done by [the] WHO earlier this year satisfied anybody as far as really looking into the details of that…We don’t know the answer yet, and we need to know.
The comment was made among a resurgence of interest in the origins of the coronavirus as lawmakers battled with Dr. Anthony Fauci over potential NIH funding for “gain of function” research at the lab in Wuhan where the coronavirus originated. In response to these discussions, Collins expressed his disappointment for the “misinformation” spread on FoxNews and defended recent statements by Fauci:
Let me be very clear, we never approved any grant that would have supported gain of function research on dangerous coronaviruses to see if they could be more transmissible or lethal for individuals in the human species…we never approved that kind of research.
Simultaneously, as announced in an official NIH statement on May 19, 2021, Collins “strongly supports the need for further investigation” by the WHO into the origins of the coronavirus. As in with other interviews, he reiterated this belief in an interview with PBS on June 3, 2021, among an explanation for the subcontract to the Wuhan laboratory.
…it would have been irresponsible for us not to see what we could learn about coronaviruses in China, given the origin of SARS 20 years ago and MERS another decade after that, both of which came from bats in caves in China…
Also, in a June 2021 exploration of the ‘lab leak’ theory, The Washington Post reported Collins making the following comment:
I am not at all convinced that a natural origin is the only explanation; I’ve never been convinced…And I do think we should be calling on China to make an expert-driven transparent investigation possible, because there are way too many unanswered questions.
In an interview with Fox News on July 19, 2021, Collins reconfirmed his current views on the origins of the coronavirus and called for cooperation from China:
I do not believe this virus was human engineered, but I can’t exclude that there was in fact a laboratory that was studying a naturally occurring virus and perhaps a laboratory investigator got infected accidently and then it spread out… that would be a lab leak
It’s not a human-engendered virus but it still could be a way that it got started…We need to know that and, at the moment, we don’t have sufficient evidence about lab records or what happened in those early cases.
When asked about China’s statements on the origins of the virus, Collins said he does not know how to support “something that seems so fanciful” and lacks factual support, and called for a “more vigorous, expert-driven investigation” with more cooperation from China.
He has consistently reiterated these views, such as in an interview with The Washington Post in which he said “those virus genomes were as far away from SARS-CoV-2 as a cow is from a human” and in a Lex Friedman Podcast in November 2021 where he reiterated that it’s “unlikely” that Covid-19 originated in and escaped from a lab, but further investigation is still needed. In an August 23, 2021 interview with CNBC he also expressed disappointment over Beijing’s lack of cooperation with the WHO investigation:
I think China basically refused to consider another WHO investigation and just said ‘nope not interested’.
Wouldn’t it be good if they’d actually open up their lab books and let us know what they were actually doing there and find out more about those cases of people who got sick in November of 2019 about which we really don’t know enough…
At the end of the day, he appears to value finding the truth; a believe he strongly shared in a November 2021 interview with NPR where he expressed great distress over how “conspiracies are winning” and the “truth is losing.” On December 19, 2021, his last day in office, Collins appeared on various news shows including Fox News to share final words as Director of the NIH, calling out China specifically:
I’m really sorry that the lab leak has become such a distraction for so many people because frankly, we still don’t know.
There is no evidence really to say. Most of the scientific community, myself included, think that is a possibility, but far more likely, this was a natural way in which a virus left a bat, maybe traveled through some other species and got to humans.
We won’t know unless China decides to open up on this which they have not done, and shame on them for that.
Notable Speeches, Testimony & Commentary
While a prolific writer and speaker on the topic of genes and the interface between faith and science, Collins does not appear to have many publications or statements regarding China or the U.S.-China relationship at this time.
- “NIH director: ‘Conspiracies are winning here’,” The Washington Post, November 19, 2021
Conspiracies are winning here. Truth is losing. That’s a really serious indictment of the way in which our society seems to be traveling.
Truth is supposed to be truth…and the fact that your truth would be so heavily modified by your social circle or where you get your news tells you we’re in real trouble.
- “Francis Collins: National Institutes of Health (NIH) | Lex Fridman Podcast #238,” YouTube video, November 5, 2021
- Interview with CNBC on the origins of the coronavirus and the Chinese government’s lack of participation in the WHO investigation, August 23, 2021
“Not to say that it could not have been under study secretly at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and got out of there, we don’t know about that. But the virus itself does not have the earmarks of having been created intentionally by human work.”
“I think China basically refused to consider another WHO investigation and just said ‘nope not interested’”
Collins also weighed in on the ‘gain-of-function’ debate that Dr. Anthony Fauci is under fire over:
The kind of gain-of-function research that’s under very careful scrutiny is when you take a pathogen for humans, and you do something with it that would enhance its virulence or its transmissibility…They were not studying a pathogen that was a pathogen for humans, these are bat viruses.
So by the strict definition, and this was look at exquisitely carefully by all the reviewers of that research in anticipation that this might come up, was that this did not meet the official description of what’s called gain-of-function research that requires oversight.
I know this has gotten lots of attention, but I think it’s way out of place.
- Interview with Fox News on the origins of the coronavirus, July 19, 2021
…If there ever was a time where we need to work together it’s on something like a pandemic…
…We need a more vigorous, expert-driven investigation and China needs to be more cooperative or we’re never going to really know what happened.
- Coronavirus: Leadership During Crisis with Francis S. Collins, MD, PhD, live video podcast, July 19, 2021
- “No proof of COVID-19’s laboratory origin, US health official claims,” TASS, June 3, 2021
- “Addressing concerns about getting the COVID-19 vaccine,” PBS interview, June 3, 2021
As the NIH, the largest supporter of medical research in the world, I think it would have been irresponsible for us not to see what we could learn about coronaviruses in China, given the origin of SARS 20 years ago and MERS another decade after that, both of which came from bats in caves in China, and clearly were a sign that there might be more trouble ahead.
And so we did, through a subcontract to the Wuhan Institute of Biology, support the collection of those bat viruses to understand what was there and to try to understand their properties.
We never authorized any support of a virus that would infect a human to make it more lethal or more transmissible. That would have been absolutely off-limits.
- “NIH Director: We Need an Investigation Into the Wuhan Lab-Leak Theory,” The Atlantic, June 2, 2021
- On May 26, 2021, Collins gave testimony before the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Health & Human Services on the National Institutes of Health Fiscal Year 2022 Budget Request. At one point in the hearing, Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith asked each of the panelists for how “strongly they believe that it is possible” that the Covid-19 pandemic originated from a “leak of the virus from the Chinese lab”:
I will say the most likely reason–mechanism–by which Sars-CoV-2 was a natural process from a transfer from animals to humans, but it is certainly possible that other options might have occurred, including a possible lab leak, we just don’t have evidence to say what that likelihood is.
- “Biden Orders Intelligence Inquiry Into Origins of Virus,” The New York Times, May 26, 2021
It is most likely that this is a virus that arose naturally, but we cannot exclude the possibility of some kind of a lab accident
- Statement, “Statement on misinformation about NIH support of specific “gain-of-function” research,” National Institutes of Health, May 19, 2021
NIH strongly supports the need for further investigation by the World Health Organization (WHO) into the origins of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus.
- Testimony Transcript, “Testimony on the Fiscal Year 2022 Budget Request before the House Committee,” National Institutes of Health, May 25, 2021
- Radio Interview, “NIH Director On The State Of The Pandemic In The U.S.,” NPR, January 18, 2021
- Interview Transcript, “NIH Director Francis Collins on Tony Fauci, the WHO, and running a $39 billion research agency from home,” STAT, April 21, 2020
Media Commentary & Public Perceptions
- “Fox News Special Report outlines fresh questions on what Fauci, government knew about COVID origin,” Fox News, January 25, 2022
- “COVID, racism, China: three tests for the next NIH leader,” Nature, October 19, 2021
- “MacCallum pushes back on NIH chief denying he rejected lab-leak theory: ‘You and Fauci jumped to conclusions,'” Fox News, June 3, 2021
- “NIH head accuses Rand Paul of ‘misinformation’ about US ties to Wuhan lab,” New York Post, May 14, 2021
- “Francis Collins to Serve Under Third President as NIH Director,” Bloomberg Law, January 15, 2021
- “For a decade, Francis Collins has shielded NIH—while making waves of his own,” Science Magazine, August 15, 2019
Page Last Updated: December 20, 2021
NOTE: On December 5, 2021, Francis Collins stepped down as Director of the NIH and Lawrence Tabak became Acting Director of the NIH until President Biden nominates a new director to be confirmed by the Senate. This page will no longer be updated.
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